Yes once someone simply keeps reading, the Calvinism fades away more and more. Then, once someone can see clearly you notice Romans 9:11-12
“(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall SERVE the younger.”
What is this election to? Salvation? NO. It’s to service, just like the rest of scripture.
Also without leaving Romans 9 verses 30-32 does not fit within Calvinistic reading. The context is national service, not personal salvation
Timothy, that's as good a summary of Romans 9 as I've every read. You put it into context with the rest of Romans 9-11. Too often Calvinists focus on just a few verses in Romans 9 to "prove" that God chooses some for heaven and some for destruction. But they never give Biblical evidence to support that. Who did God designate for ahead of time destruction in the Bible? Pharaoh, Judas, ok that's two. Name some others. Of course that is not the proper interpretation for all of mankind for all of history. You nailed it. Thank you for your contributions to our understanding of Calvinism.
What is also often missed in Romans 9 is the purpose of election. See Rom 9:11 “…in order that God’s purpose in election might stand…(Rom 9:17) I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” God “elected “ Israel to be a light for all the nations to be drawn to God. They ultimately failed in this mission, so God chose the disciples of Jesus to take the Gospel too all the world. That has been working for 2000 years. Praise God. God chooses some and sends them out to tell everyone else so all may have a chance to hear and believe and be saved.
Romans 9 decimates Calvinism
It was especially reading Romans 9 through 11 as a unit that, for me, really showed me how the Calvinist reading is wrong.
Yes once someone simply keeps reading, the Calvinism fades away more and more. Then, once someone can see clearly you notice Romans 9:11-12
“(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) It was said unto her, The elder shall SERVE the younger.”
What is this election to? Salvation? NO. It’s to service, just like the rest of scripture.
Also without leaving Romans 9 verses 30-32 does not fit within Calvinistic reading. The context is national service, not personal salvation
Timothy, that's as good a summary of Romans 9 as I've every read. You put it into context with the rest of Romans 9-11. Too often Calvinists focus on just a few verses in Romans 9 to "prove" that God chooses some for heaven and some for destruction. But they never give Biblical evidence to support that. Who did God designate for ahead of time destruction in the Bible? Pharaoh, Judas, ok that's two. Name some others. Of course that is not the proper interpretation for all of mankind for all of history. You nailed it. Thank you for your contributions to our understanding of Calvinism.
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What is also often missed in Romans 9 is the purpose of election. See Rom 9:11 “…in order that God’s purpose in election might stand…(Rom 9:17) I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” God “elected “ Israel to be a light for all the nations to be drawn to God. They ultimately failed in this mission, so God chose the disciples of Jesus to take the Gospel too all the world. That has been working for 2000 years. Praise God. God chooses some and sends them out to tell everyone else so all may have a chance to hear and believe and be saved.